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Oct09
by Greg Cravens on October 9, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Posted In: Blog

Here’s the talk I gave in Kenosha.  It’s the written version, and the reality version has some ad-libbing, but this is what I meant to say.

 

Hi, I’m Greg, and I draw comic strips.

I understand how difficult it can be to follow an unfamiliar accent, so if you have questions, raise your hands and bear with me.  ‘Cause all y’all talk funny.

 

Today we’re discussing Behind the Scenes at The Buckets, which has a light side and a dark forbidding side replete with degradation, horror and recrimination- which of course I’m going to make you wait til later for.  Brrr.  Feel free to be on the edge of your seats.

 

Once upon a time, an editorial cartoonist named Scott Stantis had a wife and two young sons, a house with a mortgage and a dog.  Weird, huh?  So he crafted these elements around the theme that Fatherhood-Is-A-Baffling-Mess and started a comic strip called The Buckets.

Ten years later, he said he was tired of drawing Larry Bucket on the end of that same darn couch.  So I was hired to draw the couch.

I had known Scott since college, and now was an advertising cartoonist.  I had therefore drawn many couches and could draw them in any style that an editor, or a printer, ad agency, or any chimpanzee with a checkbook wanted.  I had a wife and two young sons, a house with a mortgage and a dog. Also, I had desperately wanted to be on the comics page since I was very young. Perfect!

 

I learned Scott’s style, and we agreed that it was okay if the art migrated toward my style a little as time went by.

Time went by.

During my time as an advertising cartoonist, I was proud that I’d never missed a deadline.  Ten years, and everything was on time except my sleep schedule.  Pow!

 

Then suddenly instead of the random advertising jobs coming through at heaven-knows-when, I had a regularly scheduled deadline.  Scott taught me that deadlines were padded and stupid, and nobody was that serious about them.  The syndicate said otherwise, but computers were the new thing, and your delivery time was down to a few seconds, so that saved days from every deadline, right? Days!  They can wait. I nearly got ulcers, but I learned to relax.

 

Anyhow, after six months, the trial period was over and my name went onto the feature.  I was very proud.

As I drew The Buckets, of course I wanted to write The Buckets, so I would send Scott dozens of scripts that he patiently explained were not useful, or outright wrong.  “We don’t talk about Eddie setting fires, even by accident.”  “No urine, not even in puddles.” And… other thing. I forget.  Occasionally, we used my scripts.

 

Eventually, I learned the characters’ voices and heard them in my head, and of course my own kids were old enough to start doing the things that belong in the sort of comic strips that wind up yellowed and cracked, magnetized to refrigerator doors.  My writing was appearing in the strip more.  I was very proud.

The work on the strip got me into the National Cartoonist Society, where I got to meet the people I’d always wanted to meet.  You know how, in the U.S., we have this stupid Hollywood mythology – not just for actors, but musicians and athletes and artists of all stripes?  The myth is that “If you’re very good at what you do, then someday, somebody will DISCOVER you and make you rich and famous.”  I (sort of) felt like I got that. I’d been let into The Club, literally.  I was very proud.

By now, I could do all the work on The Buckets, and so Scott and I made a deal where I would take over and his name would drop off.  That was 2005 or 2006, which is when I signed the contracts with the syndicate instead of Scott.  In fact, I just signed another one, so you’ll have to put up with me for years more now.

 

I mentioned computers before, and so we come to talk about the Web, and comics.com, who had The Buckets online until 2009.  (Now, It’s on gocomics, where I trust you all read it every day. Yes?  Good.)  It was very convenient for discovering what readers were getting from the cartoons.  At least I learned from the kind of readers who like to comment under comic strips.  If readers were commenting about things that weren’t the punchline, I figured that I hadn’t refined the writing or art to bring my point into focus.  So I changed my editing style a bit.  That was really useful.  Then I realized that some of my readers just didn’t get ANYTHING.  Two of them in particular, seemed to recommend beating Toby and Eddie as often as not.

 

They said that their children would NEVER act like that… if they had any.

 

Ah. That explained a lot!  I explained to THEM that beating a child hadn’t been used as a punchline in the comic strips since the thirties, but they weren’t buying it.  I didn’t explain anything to them about family based humor.  The fact is that they really, really enjoyed showing up every day and complaining bitterly about children in general.  I love seeing comments from them now.

Once I even got an email from a reader over this cartoon.  It was a long email and dealt mostly with John McCain being a Vietnam prisoner of war who lived in a dirty cramped space and said the pledge of allegiance to a contraband homemade flag and how dare I desecrate his sacrifice.  I emailed back and said that my cartoon didn’t even mention McCain, and was a tongue-in-cheek indictment of our modern society where, because of TV, even our six year olds can not only recite their Miranda rights, but can confuse them with other recitations.  Which is the sort of thing you make up when you have to explain the humor in what is essentially a goofy drawing with a caption.  He wrote back, believe it or not, and said that he had just finished reading McCain’s book and was a little on edge and he was sorry for taking it out on me.  Nice guy.  He inspired a couple of plumbing cartoons later on.

 

So.  Bottom line.  I love doing The Buckets, I love scrutinizing my behavior and my family’s behavior for the baffling stuff that makes us funny. And I love the fact that I get to share it in newspapers and on the web.  I become very awkward when I’m asked for autographs, which I revel in giving, so if anyone’s interested, let’s do that in a little while.

I’d like to back up a moment and point out that when I showed up on Scott’s doorstep in Birmingham to cut our original deal, I was driving a Chevy Suburban filled with a bike, two skateboards, an offroad unicycle (yeeeah.), camping gear, and with two whitewater kayaks tied on top. I was, in fact, not heading home after our meeting, but going to the Ocoee river to waste the rest of my weekend. Scott said that he’d heard a syndicate was looking for an outdoors strip, and that I should do one quick since I knew about that kind of stuff.  I did, and let me tell you, it was exciting.  I thought I might wind up with TWO syndicated features in the paper, and one would be ALL ME!  The idea that one strip would be all mine and go through the so-called proper channels of syndication sounded thrilling.

Turns out, when the syndicate said, “Outdoors Strip”, they meant “Huntin’ and Fishin’” instead of “Kayaks and Bicycles”.  I don’t do Huntin’ and Fishin’, so my strip wandered around for a while with a little syndicate input and then became a webcartoon called ‘Hubris’.

 

The Buckets book will be ready in time for Christmas sales, but I have Hubris books here for you this weekend. Just didn’t want you to be confused when you see what I brought you.

 

So back to The Buckets, and now, the DARK side.  The Buckets is technically a LEGACY strip.  Anyone know what that means?  For some, a legacy strip is ‘a horrible zombie feature being prostituted after its natural death by evil syndicate money-grubbing toonpimps.”

For others, it’s “A comic strip being created by someone other than its originator.”

 

Some quick examples are ‘Dennis The Menace’, both the U.S. version and the U.K. version, ‘Gasoline Alley’, ‘Alley Oop,’ ‘Snuffy Smith,’ ‘B.C.’, ‘Dick Tracy’, ‘The Katzenjammer Kids’ Australia’s ‘Ginger Meggs’, and a pile of others. Possibly you read one or two of them.  If they weren’t legacy strips, chances are you wouldn’t have ever heard of most of them.

There is a stigma attached to working on a strip that you didn’t start.  Mostly the arguments against legacy strips are presented as artistic and high minded.  And mostly the real reasons are about business.

On a chat forum once, I encountered a young cartoonist who was fearsomely upset that since Charles Schulz’s death, Peanuts had HIS place on the comics page.  When it was pointed out that without the income from Peanuts, the syndicate would be short the income to keep its doors open, much less launch his new strip which wouldn’t be able to make up the difference quickly enough to warrant the loss, he did a thing rarely seen on the internet.  He said that was a good point, and he’d have to rethink things a bit. I suspect he was on drugs during that last part.

In 1989, I attended Ohio State’s Festival Of Cartoon Art, where we in the audience were told that we were getting a surprise guest!  We were also told that if we interrupted him, or photographed him, or recorded him or spoke to him that he’d leave the stage instantly and that the offending audience member would be ejected.  They let us take notes and doodle caricatures.  The guest was, of course, Bill Watterson, creator of Calvin & Hobbes.  His talk was about the art vs. the business of comic strips, and what I took away from it without realizing was, quote, “There has never, ever been a successor to a comic strip half as good as the original creator”

So I didn’t respect my place on The Buckets until I realized that Bill Watterson was sort of the abusive father I needed therapy to get over.

 

I’m happy to say that I personally know several legacy cartoonists, and narrowly missed knowing a couple others.  They’re good people and they love cartooning and their jobs.  Marcus Hamilton, who does Dennis The Menace dailies, pointed out he’s never heard any ill will from readers or more importantly from fans. He only gets it from reporters or other cartoonists, which is sad.  The fact is that most other cartoonists couldn’t have worked in Hank Ketcham’s writing or art styles even if they desperately needed or wanted to.  Marcus was trained and ordained by the man himself after coming out of the same advertising waters I swim in.  Hank Ketcham probably saw no oddity in passing his creation to another set of hands, since he’d been using assistants since the beginning.  Like nearly every hotshot cartoonist did back then.  Similar stories for Jim Scancarelli, who’s been doing Gasoline Alley since the 80’s, and for John Rose, who took over Snuffy Smith from Fred Laswell.  Without legacy cartoonists, most of us would never have heard of Snuffy Smith, he’d have been some random footnote in history along with Mickey Mouse and Superman, who would also have been retired when the guys who thought them up went on to other things.  There are probably a few of you in the room who’d say, “That’d be best, right?”

I used to think something like that so here’s another anecdote for you about a totally different strip.  It was one I read as a child, and still read daily, since it was in the paper, but it hurt my feelings with how lame and repetitive the humor and artwork were.  It was, fairly said, my absolute least favorite of the forty strips my hometown paper ran.  During a conversation about the state of the local comics page and what strips we wanted and what we could do without, I was a split second away from saying a LOT of rude things about this particular feature, when the guy I was talking to said as long as they didn’t take THAT EXACT STRIP out of the paper, he’d be happy.

Having narrowly avoided cursing his favorite strip the worst possible blot on newsprint, I instead said, “What?  You’re kidding, right?”  He wasn’t.  My least favorite strip is one that he can’t do without.

 

Add to that, I’ve since met people whose feelings are genuinely hurt by the fact that various soap opera strips that make my eyes roll were now no longer available to them every morning over their coffee.

 

Recently (and by that I mean because of this talk) I went back to (googled) Mr. Watterson’s speech that had so inspired me and fired me up and made me want more than ever to be a cartoonist in the newspapers. I discovered that with the dwindling of the newspapers and the ascendancy of the Web, most of his points about what the business of cartooning does to the art of cartooning have become utterly moot.  Cartoonists are free now to say and draw what they like in formats more their advantage, and can garner huge audiences doing it.  What cartoonists cannot do now, apparently, is make the sort of money that Mr. Watterson made, even with his refusal to cheapen Calvin & Hobbes by selling plush animals and Tshirts and other knickknacks.

William Randolph Hearst and other publishers made cartoonists the rock stars of their day.  They created the world in which fortunes and fame could be had from the funny papers, and that world is going away.  I’m very, very pleased to have come along in time to be one of the last guys who marked dozens of three-digit numbers onto Xeroxes of Buckets Sunday cartoons indicating to the printer where the colors should go.  And now I’m part of the brave new world of online comics with both The Buckets and with Hubris.  And we’re back to being the illustrator/businessmen that we were before William Randolph Hearst took the business end of it out of our hands.  Wonder who’ll reignite the Hollywood myth online and promise to turn us all into rock stars?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

└ Tags: Cartoonist, cartoons, cravens, greg, hubris, Kenosha, Legacy cartoon, Marcus Hamilton, Speech, Stantis, syndicate, The Buckets
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If you can stand the sound of my voice… I can’t.

Oct08
by Greg Cravens on October 8, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Posted In: Blog

Many fine cartoonists being interviewed by Tom Racine:


└ Tags: Racine, Tall Tale Radio, Tom
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Skatepark, USA

Oct07
by Jeff Cravens on October 7, 2012 at 10:24 am
Posted In: Dirty Pictures

From Jeff Outdoors


└ Tags: hubris, skatepark, sticker
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Fanfare

Oct05
by Greg Cravens on October 5, 2012 at 4:58 am
Posted In: Blog

There should have been fanfare.  I had planned to say something and maybe do a little doodle to celebrate the 300th Hubris strip posting on the site.  I missed it.

I was scrambling to get ready for the Kenosha Festival of Cartoon Art, and buying a laptop, and writing my talk (and rewriting the talk) and figuring out Powerpoint (not bad.  Powerpoint is made for slow learners like me, I guess).

And 300 went by, like five or six strips ago.  The archive reads 313, but there are 7 or 8 things that I don’t quite count as strips that have been posted under ‘comic’ since we started, so really, the count should be 306, I think.

Ah, well.  We’ll have to make a big deal out of it when we get to 400 or 500, I  guess.

└ Tags: 300, 306, 313, archive, Cartooning, fanfare, Kenosha Festival, powerpoint, Talk
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Old Friend, New Summit

Oct04
by Jeff Cravens on October 4, 2012 at 6:44 am
Posted In: Lies Around The Campfire

My buddy Roger is 50 or 60 or something around there.  He and I have climbed a lot of mountains in Washington State over the years.  We were talking about his accomplishments recently, when he reminded me that he had not made it up Mount Baker.  I had been skunked on Baker both times I tried to climb it too, so the mission became clear.  We simply HAD to do it.

If you are not familiar with Mount Baker, here is some beta.  Mount Baker is the third highest volcanic peak in the Cascade Mountain Range.  It goes from near sea level to over 10,000 feet in a very short distance.  It is an active volcano and will erupt again someday.  Currently, it is home to millions of tons of ice and snow in the form of enormous glaciers, along with a crater that spews out sulfur gas and steam 24/7.  Due to its size and proximity to the ocean, it tends to create its own weather, which is why it held the record for the highest amount of annual snowfall in the USA for a while.  One of the times I tried to climb Baker, we were buried in our tent by snow and had to dig out to keep from suffocating– not from snowfall, but from snow being blown onto us.  It can be a nasty place.

So, Roger and I signed up his daughter and son-in-law (who always join us on our adventures) to climb Mount Baker this August 3rd.

We arrived at the trailhead, packed up, pontificated, prepared ourselves and plodded up to basecamp.  There we met a group who intended to climb the next morning, just as we had planned.

 

Typical of Baker, at 3am, we found ourselves in heavy overcast, but decided to go for it anyway.  Despite the decreasing visibility, we found a safe route, which merged with a fresh set of crampon tracks.  After dodging crevasses and slugging up in the fog for hours, we found ourselves taking a food break in a drizzling rain.

During our break, disembodied voices drifted in from higher on the glacier, and within a few minutes, the group we met the day before was retracing their path back to basecamp.  Sodden and defeated, they passed us and wished us luck.  At the time, I wanted to quit.  I wanted to get out of my wet clothes. I wanted to take a nap in my warm down sleeping bag and forget that I ever talked myself into doing this stupid thing, but when I opened my mouth, it was to rally the troops and push for the summit.

 

Everyone stuffed their Cliff Bar wrappers, shouldered their packs, and waited their turn to start grinding up the glacier with a rope that was not too tight and not too loose.

By 10am, the summit rose into view through the fog.  We had made the right decisions.  We were on the safest path.  We were less than 1,000 feet from the summit of the mountain that had plagued Roger and me for years.

At noon, we stood on the vast expanse of snow, which was essentially the summit of Baker.  Gradually, the clouds cleared and we had a 360 degree view of the world.  No one was there.  No one else had made it that day.  The summit, the experience, the reward was ours alone.

On the way back down, the expanse of the Pacific Northwest lay before us.  We walked in awe down to the crater.  At the crater, we experienced the living Earth.  Sulfur and steam vents dotted the crater, melting ancient ice and recent snow.  The sight, smells, and sounds were eerie and powerful, creating a sense of insignificance and connection at the same time.

Back on rope, we trudged, slid and sloughed through the warming snow, over snow bridges and down immense glaciers back into the fog. At base camp, the sleeping bags awaited our arrival, but the experience of the day proved to override our weariness.  We turned in early after watching the gibbous moon rise over the Cascade Mountains.

Before the trip started I had hoped to hike out after conquering the mountain, with a feeling of accomplishment and success.  But the next morning after our summit, as we strolled down the trail with heavy packs, I sensed that we had not conquered anything.  I felt like I was walking away from an old friend, whom I’d just spent some quality time with.  A friend that pushed me out of my comfort zone, and still had much to offer.

As we approached the car, Roger turned to me and casually offered that when we were sitting on the glacier in the rain and the group passed us going back to base camp, he wanted to quit.  He wanted me to say that we were turning around too.  He didn’t want to continue, but he got up simply because I didn’t offer an option.  I smiled and told him that I had felt the same way.  I didn’t want to keep going up either, but an old friend put the words in my mouth.  And I’m very glad.

└ Tags: climb, cravens, Earth, jeff, marmot, mountain, Mt. Baker, Pacific Northwest, snow, sulphur vent, trail, Volcano
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